410/45Lc the 45 is something you can shoot lots of , but 410- 3inch mag is nasty at both ends of the firearm ,but one thing I know I only want to be at the back end. when you see the damage at 2 to5 yards,no thanks . . when my buddy shot the 3inch Winchester PDX1.410 Defender load with discs and bb load . he burst out laughing and said my god no...