OK. Here goes, I removed my new Band Arms 45LC Mini from the box, loaded it and fired it at paper plate from about 6 feet. The first round struck just off from the plate high and left. I re-cocked and took aim again. This time taking into consideration the strike of my first round. I struck the plate just a little left and above center. During the next set of two rounds, I was quite pleased with my ability to group rounds very near or in the center of my target. I now carry the little goomer everywhere I go. Yes I have a CPL. It is a great little backup gun. I am looking forward to owning several different configurations of Bond Arm products.